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		<title>By: katbrat</title>
		<link>http://www.suburbandaddy.com/2008/04/29/response-to-cafemom-brouhaha/comment-page-1/#comment-10654</link>
		<dc:creator>katbrat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 03:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m disgusted by the crud articles on that site. Sure, I&#039;m a feminist...but not a modern one. I love men for who they are. And I&#039;m not gonna feminize them in any way. 

I wonder how these women stay married. How can men take this abuse? I will never understand but wish I could. I just want to know why men marry some of us when all we do is disrespect them at every chance we get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m disgusted by the crud articles on that site. Sure, I&#8217;m a feminist&#8230;but not a modern one. I love men for who they are. And I&#8217;m not gonna feminize them in any way. </p>
<p>I wonder how these women stay married. How can men take this abuse? I will never understand but wish I could. I just want to know why men marry some of us when all we do is disrespect them at every chance we get.</p>
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		<title>By: SAHD</title>
		<link>http://www.suburbandaddy.com/2008/04/29/response-to-cafemom-brouhaha/comment-page-1/#comment-10555</link>
		<dc:creator>SAHD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Sep 2011 20:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fireandice has a very narrow minded (and stereotypical) view of men. Not all men are into cars, and hardware and sports and are not homosexual in any way. Stay at home Dads have no  other reliable place to go. They do the same things you described as a SAHM. Your stereotype male would have no interest in talking to a SAHD about the things we do as home parents, as such talking to people that do (moms) is the obvious route. 

Its a very easy and useful site to browse thru, get helpful advice and socialize on, and as long as the dad never implies he&#039;s a dad, everything is perfect, other than not being able to be honest about being male, everything else the dad talks about is perfectly honest and truthful (ie daily activities, etc as a SAH Parent).  

btw - Privacy online doesn&#039;t truly exist and telling a buncha strangers your secrets because they happen to be female is just unwise. Females can have bad intentions, as well. 

Take care all :)  SAHD on CafeMOM --- its MOM for a reason--- always cracks me up --its run by men :) 
lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fireandice has a very narrow minded (and stereotypical) view of men. Not all men are into cars, and hardware and sports and are not homosexual in any way. Stay at home Dads have no  other reliable place to go. They do the same things you described as a SAHM. Your stereotype male would have no interest in talking to a SAHD about the things we do as home parents, as such talking to people that do (moms) is the obvious route. </p>
<p>Its a very easy and useful site to browse thru, get helpful advice and socialize on, and as long as the dad never implies he&#8217;s a dad, everything is perfect, other than not being able to be honest about being male, everything else the dad talks about is perfectly honest and truthful (ie daily activities, etc as a SAH Parent).  </p>
<p>btw &#8211; Privacy online doesn&#8217;t truly exist and telling a buncha strangers your secrets because they happen to be female is just unwise. Females can have bad intentions, as well. </p>
<p>Take care all :)  SAHD on CafeMOM &#8212; its MOM for a reason&#8212; always cracks me up &#8211;its run by men :)<br />
lol</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous Cafemom Member</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous Cafemom Member</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jul 2011 10:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll tell you right now why men would want to join Cafemom: the women there get raunchy. 

They frequently post pictures of themselves on the most popular group that could be considered soft core porn. Those titles are usually along the lines of &quot;Show Me Your Boobs!&quot;. They discuss intimate details of their sex life luridly describing what they like most in bed. Surprise, guys, anal sex with genital stimulation seems to be the preferred sexual position. 

They get in verbal cat-fights, attacking eachother&#039;s views on politics, religion, parenting, usually huge amounts of profanity. They get offended by the smallest things: if a mother breast feeds or formula feeds some mother on Cafemom is bound to start calling another the most hilarious obscenities you could imagine. 

They are ill-behaved, slutty, foul-mouthed wretches and it is beyond funny to imagine that the woman shopping in front of you in line might just be the one who posted pictures of herself masturbating and admitting that she got herself pregnant by another woman&#039;s husband in order to steal him, or maybe the one who tracked down another member&#039;s family to stalk them on Facebook, or maybe the one who does not use soap and makes toilet paper out of used baby blankets and rinses it out to use again and again. 

It&#039;s a confirmation that women are just as fucked up as men; and it is entertaining as fuck all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll tell you right now why men would want to join Cafemom: the women there get raunchy. </p>
<p>They frequently post pictures of themselves on the most popular group that could be considered soft core porn. Those titles are usually along the lines of &#8220;Show Me Your Boobs!&#8221;. They discuss intimate details of their sex life luridly describing what they like most in bed. Surprise, guys, anal sex with genital stimulation seems to be the preferred sexual position. </p>
<p>They get in verbal cat-fights, attacking eachother&#8217;s views on politics, religion, parenting, usually huge amounts of profanity. They get offended by the smallest things: if a mother breast feeds or formula feeds some mother on Cafemom is bound to start calling another the most hilarious obscenities you could imagine. </p>
<p>They are ill-behaved, slutty, foul-mouthed wretches and it is beyond funny to imagine that the woman shopping in front of you in line might just be the one who posted pictures of herself masturbating and admitting that she got herself pregnant by another woman&#8217;s husband in order to steal him, or maybe the one who tracked down another member&#8217;s family to stalk them on Facebook, or maybe the one who does not use soap and makes toilet paper out of used baby blankets and rinses it out to use again and again. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s a confirmation that women are just as fucked up as men; and it is entertaining as fuck all.</p>
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		<title>By: fireice</title>
		<link>http://www.suburbandaddy.com/2008/04/29/response-to-cafemom-brouhaha/comment-page-1/#comment-10293</link>
		<dc:creator>fireice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:03:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why would a man want to go on a mom site anyway?  The only reason i could think of is if your a puss or something.  I meen come on realy?  What man wants to hang out with bunch of women in the first place?  I can understand hangen our with a bunch of women if it was sexual but guess what its not.  And do you know how many places a man can go to get away from women?  How many times does a man get wraped up in a game he is playing?  How long do men spend at the hardware or tool stores?  How often do they spend just going and looking at cars and such?  And the one place a woman can go where there are no men that they no of men want to take it away.  On cafemom we talk about our sex life or lack of sex life, we talk about our kids, we talk about our husbands (the good and bad about them), we talk about pets, we talk about everyday stresses that men just don&#039;t know about.  I am a stay at home mom of 2 kids, 3 dogs, and 2 cats.  My husband works 10 hour days so yes i go on cafemom to talk to other stay at home moms.  My husband doesn&#039;t know what i put up with during the day because he isn&#039;t here.  He doens&#039;t know how many times i have to clean the livingroom or do dihes, or how many peaces of clothes i have to put stain remover on, or how cleanng his shit stains out of the toilet hurts me knees.  So to all of you men who like to still keep women under your thumb at all times and want to know what they are talking about to other women quit your bitchen and go look at a nice car, or go bitch at your buddies about your wife, or go fishing,go jump your motorcycle or something...come on be a man and quit your whinning because your wife, girlfriend or just some random women won&#039;t let you on their web site.  Also one more question...If you came on cafemom and saw a women crying because her asshole husband beat the shit out of her, or lost a child, or is going threw a realy hard divorce or something that is very emotional, How many men would get emotionaly attatched to this woman?  Even if it wasn&#039;t on cafemm how often does it happen when you actually talk to th the girl face to face?  Because lt me tell ya something A women can talk to another women and not want to bone her.  So that is why men are not allowed.  All the time women are feeling the presure of men wanting them for more then one reason and on cafemom we don&#039;t want that.  We want to go to the one spot where we don&#039;t have to deal with the men thinking with their dicks....so for once can we please have a little damn privacy.  We barely get privacy when we are at home.  We can&#039;t piss,shit,or lay in bed naked with out a kid comming in or a huband commen in to ask what were doing.  I meen come on can we have one place of privacy?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why would a man want to go on a mom site anyway?  The only reason i could think of is if your a puss or something.  I meen come on realy?  What man wants to hang out with bunch of women in the first place?  I can understand hangen our with a bunch of women if it was sexual but guess what its not.  And do you know how many places a man can go to get away from women?  How many times does a man get wraped up in a game he is playing?  How long do men spend at the hardware or tool stores?  How often do they spend just going and looking at cars and such?  And the one place a woman can go where there are no men that they no of men want to take it away.  On cafemom we talk about our sex life or lack of sex life, we talk about our kids, we talk about our husbands (the good and bad about them), we talk about pets, we talk about everyday stresses that men just don&#8217;t know about.  I am a stay at home mom of 2 kids, 3 dogs, and 2 cats.  My husband works 10 hour days so yes i go on cafemom to talk to other stay at home moms.  My husband doesn&#8217;t know what i put up with during the day because he isn&#8217;t here.  He doens&#8217;t know how many times i have to clean the livingroom or do dihes, or how many peaces of clothes i have to put stain remover on, or how cleanng his shit stains out of the toilet hurts me knees.  So to all of you men who like to still keep women under your thumb at all times and want to know what they are talking about to other women quit your bitchen and go look at a nice car, or go bitch at your buddies about your wife, or go fishing,go jump your motorcycle or something&#8230;come on be a man and quit your whinning because your wife, girlfriend or just some random women won&#8217;t let you on their web site.  Also one more question&#8230;If you came on cafemom and saw a women crying because her asshole husband beat the shit out of her, or lost a child, or is going threw a realy hard divorce or something that is very emotional, How many men would get emotionaly attatched to this woman?  Even if it wasn&#8217;t on cafemm how often does it happen when you actually talk to th the girl face to face?  Because lt me tell ya something A women can talk to another women and not want to bone her.  So that is why men are not allowed.  All the time women are feeling the presure of men wanting them for more then one reason and on cafemom we don&#8217;t want that.  We want to go to the one spot where we don&#8217;t have to deal with the men thinking with their dicks&#8230;.so for once can we please have a little damn privacy.  We barely get privacy when we are at home.  We can&#8217;t piss,shit,or lay in bed naked with out a kid comming in or a huband commen in to ask what were doing.  I meen come on can we have one place of privacy?</p>
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		<title>By: Mandy</title>
		<link>http://www.suburbandaddy.com/2008/04/29/response-to-cafemom-brouhaha/comment-page-1/#comment-10283</link>
		<dc:creator>Mandy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Feb 2011 14:22:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its ok, Dads, you can join too as long as you don’t tell em you’re a guy. They don’t ask for gender during registration and have no way of knowing whose who or what behind the screen names. Just play it cool, and you’ll be able to participate the same as everyone else there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its ok, Dads, you can join too as long as you don’t tell em you’re a guy. They don’t ask for gender during registration and have no way of knowing whose who or what behind the screen names. Just play it cool, and you’ll be able to participate the same as everyone else there.</p>
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		<title>By: Jacqui410</title>
		<link>http://www.suburbandaddy.com/2008/04/29/response-to-cafemom-brouhaha/comment-page-1/#comment-10014</link>
		<dc:creator>Jacqui410</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Oct 2010 15:50:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is called cafeMOM for a reason. it&#039;s for mothers. So why would men need to join? Also, the pregnant man thing is pretty rare. It&#039;s not you go out and see pregnant men walking around everywhere</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is called cafeMOM for a reason. it&#8217;s for mothers. So why would men need to join? Also, the pregnant man thing is pretty rare. It&#8217;s not you go out and see pregnant men walking around everywhere</p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://www.suburbandaddy.com/2008/04/29/response-to-cafemom-brouhaha/comment-page-1/#comment-9761</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 16:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe there should be a redefinition of the term, &#039;mom.&#039;  Grandma&#039;s who raise their grandchildren are momlike.

The nosy neighbor who screams at the boys riding their skateboards in the middle of the street and yet offers all the kids whole candybars at Halloween is a mom, part time.

An older sibling who, because of family crisis, has stepped in to take care of the younger children is a mom.

So, by my definition, if you take care of children, without being paid to do so and are interested in connecting with other &#039;moms&#039; to express concerns and joys you should.  You deserve it, end of story!

To those moms who want a woman only experience, the truth is parenting isn&#039;t just a woman thing.  Even for single parents, lots of other people contribute to your child whether or not you realize it; neighbors, librarians, teachers, etc.  Many of these people are not female and that&#039;s a good thing, children need guidance from many sources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe there should be a redefinition of the term, &#8216;mom.&#8217;  Grandma&#8217;s who raise their grandchildren are momlike.</p>
<p>The nosy neighbor who screams at the boys riding their skateboards in the middle of the street and yet offers all the kids whole candybars at Halloween is a mom, part time.</p>
<p>An older sibling who, because of family crisis, has stepped in to take care of the younger children is a mom.</p>
<p>So, by my definition, if you take care of children, without being paid to do so and are interested in connecting with other &#8216;moms&#8217; to express concerns and joys you should.  You deserve it, end of story!</p>
<p>To those moms who want a woman only experience, the truth is parenting isn&#8217;t just a woman thing.  Even for single parents, lots of other people contribute to your child whether or not you realize it; neighbors, librarians, teachers, etc.  Many of these people are not female and that&#8217;s a good thing, children need guidance from many sources.</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine</title>
		<link>http://www.suburbandaddy.com/2008/04/29/response-to-cafemom-brouhaha/comment-page-1/#comment-9672</link>
		<dc:creator>Elaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a CM member and if you don&#039;t like CM because you aren&#039;t allowed because you are a MAN then go to the daddy only site which is the Male Version of CM.... its called dadsdaily.com... 
Women GIVE BIRTH to the kids, we spend most of the time with the kids for the most part and I&#039;m trying to understand how it is that we can&#039;t have one place to call our own without some man acting worse than some of the bitches on the site!?!?!
Get over it or have a sex change and adapt to giving birth!
Just MO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a CM member and if you don&#8217;t like CM because you aren&#8217;t allowed because you are a MAN then go to the daddy only site which is the Male Version of CM&#8230;. its called dadsdaily.com&#8230;<br />
Women GIVE BIRTH to the kids, we spend most of the time with the kids for the most part and I&#8217;m trying to understand how it is that we can&#8217;t have one place to call our own without some man acting worse than some of the bitches on the site!?!?!<br />
Get over it or have a sex change and adapt to giving birth!<br />
Just MO.</p>
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		<title>By: A good parent</title>
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		<dc:creator>A good parent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you don&#039;t know who the gender is, then it shouldn&#039;t matter as long as they are providing a positive experience anf intentions. Not every man is into the stereotype male things and some men get along and relate better with females or want a female perspective. And to be honest, Cafemom has far more things to do there and is far more interesting that those lame Daddy sites that don&#039;t have anything there at all.

I been there awhile now. And other than my gender, I&#039;m totally honest about who I am and what I do with the kids and participate in all the discussions and minigames and even have a few &quot;friends&quot;. 

I&#039;ve learned over time how to play along and know the right things to say, but as well as I&#039;m liked and get along and follow the rules, I know I have to maintain appearances or get deleted based on some sexist, short-sighted, paranoid viewpoint that all men must be evil because of a few bad eggs and experiences some people have had.

Another poster pointed out that the registration is completely open. They verify nothing. As such it would be very naive to assume that some good-intentioned dads don&#039;t join up sometimes and just keep a low profile or share accounts with a wife and just let people think they are her.

Some guys have no other social outlets. This is it (the internet) and those Dad sites and myspace type places don&#039;t give you what you need. As long as they aren&#039;t harming anything (and no one knows), I don&#039;t see the need to make a stink about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you don&#8217;t know who the gender is, then it shouldn&#8217;t matter as long as they are providing a positive experience anf intentions. Not every man is into the stereotype male things and some men get along and relate better with females or want a female perspective. And to be honest, Cafemom has far more things to do there and is far more interesting that those lame Daddy sites that don&#8217;t have anything there at all.</p>
<p>I been there awhile now. And other than my gender, I&#8217;m totally honest about who I am and what I do with the kids and participate in all the discussions and minigames and even have a few &#8220;friends&#8221;. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve learned over time how to play along and know the right things to say, but as well as I&#8217;m liked and get along and follow the rules, I know I have to maintain appearances or get deleted based on some sexist, short-sighted, paranoid viewpoint that all men must be evil because of a few bad eggs and experiences some people have had.</p>
<p>Another poster pointed out that the registration is completely open. They verify nothing. As such it would be very naive to assume that some good-intentioned dads don&#8217;t join up sometimes and just keep a low profile or share accounts with a wife and just let people think they are her.</p>
<p>Some guys have no other social outlets. This is it (the internet) and those Dad sites and myspace type places don&#8217;t give you what you need. As long as they aren&#8217;t harming anything (and no one knows), I don&#8217;t see the need to make a stink about it.</p>
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		<title>By: glitterpackingcafemommer</title>
		<link>http://www.suburbandaddy.com/2008/04/29/response-to-cafemom-brouhaha/comment-page-1/#comment-4665</link>
		<dc:creator>glitterpackingcafemommer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 06:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you really need to get a life. Alot of us women get on cafemom to get away from MEN and talk about anything and everything without dealing with some guy making passes or treating the site like a dating site. It is not that we are man haters or anything we just want a place of our own to talk about womens issues and pregger and parenting issues. Until your privates can litterally pass a infant thru it and your boobs ache from breast feeding GIVE IT UP!!! FInd a daddy group and leave us and our PMS or whatever alone!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you really need to get a life. Alot of us women get on cafemom to get away from MEN and talk about anything and everything without dealing with some guy making passes or treating the site like a dating site. It is not that we are man haters or anything we just want a place of our own to talk about womens issues and pregger and parenting issues. Until your privates can litterally pass a infant thru it and your boobs ache from breast feeding GIVE IT UP!!! FInd a daddy group and leave us and our PMS or whatever alone!!!</p>
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