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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://www.suburbandaddy.com/2008/04/29/response-to-cafemom-brouhaha/comment-page-1/#comment-9761</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 16:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe there should be a redefinition of the term, &#039;mom.&#039;  Grandma&#039;s who raise their grandchildren are momlike.

The nosy neighbor who screams at the boys riding their skateboards in the middle of the street and yet offers all the kids whole candybars at Halloween is a mom, part time.

An older sibling who, because of family crisis, has stepped in to take care of the younger children is a mom.

So, by my definition, if you take care of children, without being paid to do so and are interested in connecting with other &#039;moms&#039; to express concerns and joys you should.  You deserve it, end of story!

To those moms who want a woman only experience, the truth is parenting isn&#039;t just a woman thing.  Even for single parents, lots of other people contribute to your child whether or not you realize it; neighbors, librarians, teachers, etc.  Many of these people are not female and that&#039;s a good thing, children need guidance from many sources.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe there should be a redefinition of the term, &#8216;mom.&#8217;  Grandma&#8217;s who raise their grandchildren are momlike.</p>
<p>The nosy neighbor who screams at the boys riding their skateboards in the middle of the street and yet offers all the kids whole candybars at Halloween is a mom, part time.</p>
<p>An older sibling who, because of family crisis, has stepped in to take care of the younger children is a mom.</p>
<p>So, by my definition, if you take care of children, without being paid to do so and are interested in connecting with other &#8216;moms&#8217; to express concerns and joys you should.  You deserve it, end of story!</p>
<p>To those moms who want a woman only experience, the truth is parenting isn&#8217;t just a woman thing.  Even for single parents, lots of other people contribute to your child whether or not you realize it; neighbors, librarians, teachers, etc.  Many of these people are not female and that&#8217;s a good thing, children need guidance from many sources.</p>
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		<title>By: Elaine</title>
		<link>http://www.suburbandaddy.com/2008/04/29/response-to-cafemom-brouhaha/comment-page-1/#comment-9672</link>
		<dc:creator>Elaine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am a CM member and if you don&#039;t like CM because you aren&#039;t allowed because you are a MAN then go to the daddy only site which is the Male Version of CM.... its called dadsdaily.com... 
Women GIVE BIRTH to the kids, we spend most of the time with the kids for the most part and I&#039;m trying to understand how it is that we can&#039;t have one place to call our own without some man acting worse than some of the bitches on the site!?!?!
Get over it or have a sex change and adapt to giving birth!
Just MO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a CM member and if you don&#8217;t like CM because you aren&#8217;t allowed because you are a MAN then go to the daddy only site which is the Male Version of CM&#8230;. its called dadsdaily.com&#8230;<br />
Women GIVE BIRTH to the kids, we spend most of the time with the kids for the most part and I&#8217;m trying to understand how it is that we can&#8217;t have one place to call our own without some man acting worse than some of the bitches on the site!?!?!<br />
Get over it or have a sex change and adapt to giving birth!<br />
Just MO.</p>
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		<title>By: A good parent</title>
		<link>http://www.suburbandaddy.com/2008/04/29/response-to-cafemom-brouhaha/comment-page-1/#comment-7932</link>
		<dc:creator>A good parent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2009 13:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you don&#039;t know who the gender is, then it shouldn&#039;t matter as long as they are providing a positive experience anf intentions. Not every man is into the stereotype male things and some men get along and relate better with females or want a female perspective. And to be honest, Cafemom has far more things to do there and is far more interesting that those lame Daddy sites that don&#039;t have anything there at all.

I been there awhile now. And other than my gender, I&#039;m totally honest about who I am and what I do with the kids and participate in all the discussions and minigames and even have a few &quot;friends&quot;. 

I&#039;ve learned over time how to play along and know the right things to say, but as well as I&#039;m liked and get along and follow the rules, I know I have to maintain appearances or get deleted based on some sexist, short-sighted, paranoid viewpoint that all men must be evil because of a few bad eggs and experiences some people have had.

Another poster pointed out that the registration is completely open. They verify nothing. As such it would be very naive to assume that some good-intentioned dads don&#039;t join up sometimes and just keep a low profile or share accounts with a wife and just let people think they are her.

Some guys have no other social outlets. This is it (the internet) and those Dad sites and myspace type places don&#039;t give you what you need. As long as they aren&#039;t harming anything (and no one knows), I don&#039;t see the need to make a stink about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you don&#8217;t know who the gender is, then it shouldn&#8217;t matter as long as they are providing a positive experience anf intentions. Not every man is into the stereotype male things and some men get along and relate better with females or want a female perspective. And to be honest, Cafemom has far more things to do there and is far more interesting that those lame Daddy sites that don&#8217;t have anything there at all.</p>
<p>I been there awhile now. And other than my gender, I&#8217;m totally honest about who I am and what I do with the kids and participate in all the discussions and minigames and even have a few &#8220;friends&#8221;. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve learned over time how to play along and know the right things to say, but as well as I&#8217;m liked and get along and follow the rules, I know I have to maintain appearances or get deleted based on some sexist, short-sighted, paranoid viewpoint that all men must be evil because of a few bad eggs and experiences some people have had.</p>
<p>Another poster pointed out that the registration is completely open. They verify nothing. As such it would be very naive to assume that some good-intentioned dads don&#8217;t join up sometimes and just keep a low profile or share accounts with a wife and just let people think they are her.</p>
<p>Some guys have no other social outlets. This is it (the internet) and those Dad sites and myspace type places don&#8217;t give you what you need. As long as they aren&#8217;t harming anything (and no one knows), I don&#8217;t see the need to make a stink about it.</p>
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		<title>By: glitterpackingcafemommer</title>
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		<dc:creator>glitterpackingcafemommer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Apr 2009 06:02:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you really need to get a life. Alot of us women get on cafemom to get away from MEN and talk about anything and everything without dealing with some guy making passes or treating the site like a dating site. It is not that we are man haters or anything we just want a place of our own to talk about womens issues and pregger and parenting issues. Until your privates can litterally pass a infant thru it and your boobs ache from breast feeding GIVE IT UP!!! FInd a daddy group and leave us and our PMS or whatever alone!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you really need to get a life. Alot of us women get on cafemom to get away from MEN and talk about anything and everything without dealing with some guy making passes or treating the site like a dating site. It is not that we are man haters or anything we just want a place of our own to talk about womens issues and pregger and parenting issues. Until your privates can litterally pass a infant thru it and your boobs ache from breast feeding GIVE IT UP!!! FInd a daddy group and leave us and our PMS or whatever alone!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Ashley</title>
		<link>http://www.suburbandaddy.com/2008/04/29/response-to-cafemom-brouhaha/comment-page-1/#comment-3924</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Feb 2009 22:14:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t not have an idea that there was a &quot;war&quot; going on about cafemom. Im a member of CafeMom and had just saw a post that led me here. First of all let me tell you that if your going there for help you wont get it. It think in the maybe 2 years ove been on there ive had 25 views at the most on a post. If it has nothing to do with drama or stirring up crap then dont bother. Unless your wanting yourself or significant other rated from 1-10 than they will be all over it. I definately agree with a comment above about having a dad&#039;s point of view or input on a situation being a good thing. Another thing that I dont understand about cafemom users is that they dont have a mind of their own anymore. Ive seen posts where the kid is turning blue or bleeding...and they get online to find out what other moms would do in their situation. Anyways your not missing anything by not getting to join cafemom. Have a good day</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t not have an idea that there was a &#8220;war&#8221; going on about cafemom. Im a member of CafeMom and had just saw a post that led me here. First of all let me tell you that if your going there for help you wont get it. It think in the maybe 2 years ove been on there ive had 25 views at the most on a post. If it has nothing to do with drama or stirring up crap then dont bother. Unless your wanting yourself or significant other rated from 1-10 than they will be all over it. I definately agree with a comment above about having a dad&#8217;s point of view or input on a situation being a good thing. Another thing that I dont understand about cafemom users is that they dont have a mind of their own anymore. Ive seen posts where the kid is turning blue or bleeding&#8230;and they get online to find out what other moms would do in their situation. Anyways your not missing anything by not getting to join cafemom. Have a good day</p>
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		<title>By: Lightbringer</title>
		<link>http://www.suburbandaddy.com/2008/04/29/response-to-cafemom-brouhaha/comment-page-1/#comment-3874</link>
		<dc:creator>Lightbringer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:07:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note to A Man: Wait until your wife becomes addicted to CafeMom, logging in and going on that site 12 hours a day, barely pausing to feed or bathe the kids. Fun times</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note to A Man: Wait until your wife becomes addicted to CafeMom, logging in and going on that site 12 hours a day, barely pausing to feed or bathe the kids. Fun times</p>
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		<title>By: Lightbringer</title>
		<link>http://www.suburbandaddy.com/2008/04/29/response-to-cafemom-brouhaha/comment-page-1/#comment-3873</link>
		<dc:creator>Lightbringer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jan 2009 04:02:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m a dude, and I&#039;ve been on CafeMom - actually for a period of several months last year.  As a rough estimate, I&#039;d say that around 20% of the groups that are formed in CafeMom are actually strictly about parenting, with another maybe 20% are regional, or about other mundane group things.  

However, there are a large number of groups that appear to be for all the women who really never mentally left high school. Parenting is rarely mentioned, other than to put someone down.  The women have photo contests where they flash their underwear, have fights based on who is a fake or sock puppet, on who allows or doesn&#039;t allow who in whose group, and on who betrayed who somehow (given they&#039;re anonymous internet people who have never met in real life), and also inane polls on who is the cutest, most annoying, etc.  All this crap establishes some sort of hierarchy to someone, despite the fact that most of the people in these groups are, frankly, idiots who have no business having children. And women who stir up a lot of trouble in these groups are allowed back over and over, particularly by the people who hate them most.

Anyway, if you somehow missed high school, or miss it now, gosh, go to CafeMom.  Relive the past, or maybe relive it how you wish it had been!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a dude, and I&#8217;ve been on CafeMom &#8211; actually for a period of several months last year.  As a rough estimate, I&#8217;d say that around 20% of the groups that are formed in CafeMom are actually strictly about parenting, with another maybe 20% are regional, or about other mundane group things.  </p>
<p>However, there are a large number of groups that appear to be for all the women who really never mentally left high school. Parenting is rarely mentioned, other than to put someone down.  The women have photo contests where they flash their underwear, have fights based on who is a fake or sock puppet, on who allows or doesn&#8217;t allow who in whose group, and on who betrayed who somehow (given they&#8217;re anonymous internet people who have never met in real life), and also inane polls on who is the cutest, most annoying, etc.  All this crap establishes some sort of hierarchy to someone, despite the fact that most of the people in these groups are, frankly, idiots who have no business having children. And women who stir up a lot of trouble in these groups are allowed back over and over, particularly by the people who hate them most.</p>
<p>Anyway, if you somehow missed high school, or miss it now, gosh, go to CafeMom.  Relive the past, or maybe relive it how you wish it had been!</p>
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		<title>By: Another Cafe Mom User</title>
		<link>http://www.suburbandaddy.com/2008/04/29/response-to-cafemom-brouhaha/comment-page-1/#comment-3773</link>
		<dc:creator>Another Cafe Mom User</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 02:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OK, Matt M. I soooo agree. Anyways, for the sake of it I thought I&#039;d list a site for dads. Not too shabby so here goes: http://www.daddaily.com/

And from the looks of it, I am not allowed and I am OK with that! There are just some things that women just want to talk to other women about and some things men just want to talk to other men about. Not everything has to be coed. 

And no, not every woman on Cafe Mom goes on to blah blah blah... ;D

Well, hope this helps you and any other father feeling left out. Oh and there is another site for both moms &amp; dads... Coolerparents.com It&#039;s not CafeMom, but it is coed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OK, Matt M. I soooo agree. Anyways, for the sake of it I thought I&#8217;d list a site for dads. Not too shabby so here goes: <a href="http://www.daddaily.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.daddaily.com/</a></p>
<p>And from the looks of it, I am not allowed and I am OK with that! There are just some things that women just want to talk to other women about and some things men just want to talk to other men about. Not everything has to be coed. </p>
<p>And no, not every woman on Cafe Mom goes on to blah blah blah&#8230; ;D</p>
<p>Well, hope this helps you and any other father feeling left out. Oh and there is another site for both moms &amp; dads&#8230; Coolerparents.com It&#8217;s not CafeMom, but it is coed.</p>
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		<title>By: A MAN!!!</title>
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		<dc:creator>A MAN!!!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 03:21:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have pregnant fiance, she has daughter from a previous relationship, CAFEMOM fills in where I cant! Knowing that she is chatting on a mommy forumn instead of on the phone with another dude or getting homoned up by a local jealous girlfriend is big relief. ALL YOU PUSSY ASS BITCHES OUT THERE&lt; GET A LIFE!!!!!! how in the hell do get off complaining about this site for women, when most of you do your best to try to spend as much time without the wife as possible!!! BUY A 4x4 or go fishing HOLY SHIT!! I just dont get it, I personally have account at mymudspce.com, its my mansite for al the guystuff I cant find on cafemom, and as for not being able to be with the moms, your the origonal writer of the hole deal, start cafedad or something but you cant be one of the moms so why is this even  guys are suposed to take the kids fishing hunting trucking outdoors ect...  you cant be mom if your dad and the kids understand it more than you will ever know!!! I have raised 3 myself and am working on 4 and 5</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have pregnant fiance, she has daughter from a previous relationship, CAFEMOM fills in where I cant! Knowing that she is chatting on a mommy forumn instead of on the phone with another dude or getting homoned up by a local jealous girlfriend is big relief. ALL YOU PUSSY ASS BITCHES OUT THERE&lt; GET A LIFE!!!!!! how in the hell do get off complaining about this site for women, when most of you do your best to try to spend as much time without the wife as possible!!! BUY A 4&#215;4 or go fishing HOLY SHIT!! I just dont get it, I personally have account at mymudspce.com, its my mansite for al the guystuff I cant find on cafemom, and as for not being able to be with the moms, your the origonal writer of the hole deal, start cafedad or something but you cant be one of the moms so why is this even  guys are suposed to take the kids fishing hunting trucking outdoors ect&#8230;  you cant be mom if your dad and the kids understand it more than you will ever know!!! I have raised 3 myself and am working on 4 and 5</p>
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		<title>By: CafemomUser</title>
		<link>http://www.suburbandaddy.com/2008/04/29/response-to-cafemom-brouhaha/comment-page-1/#comment-3755</link>
		<dc:creator>CafemomUser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 03:07:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I use Cafemom everyday. I check my mail and new posts, again EVERY day. I use this site to see if there are other women sharing same pregnancy symptoms or having toddler troubles. I apologize men, but you are not the most sympathetic, or empathetic gender, and yes it&#039;s easier talking to a WOMAN who has had a baby, knows the hormone troubles, knows how men can be when you are pregnant and THINK they understand. Sorry, but you can&#039;t, won&#039;t, and probably don&#039;t even try. So to all of you men who want to sue. Start your own website or leave the toilet seat up for some liberation!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I use Cafemom everyday. I check my mail and new posts, again EVERY day. I use this site to see if there are other women sharing same pregnancy symptoms or having toddler troubles. I apologize men, but you are not the most sympathetic, or empathetic gender, and yes it&#8217;s easier talking to a WOMAN who has had a baby, knows the hormone troubles, knows how men can be when you are pregnant and THINK they understand. Sorry, but you can&#8217;t, won&#8217;t, and probably don&#8217;t even try. So to all of you men who want to sue. Start your own website or leave the toilet seat up for some liberation!</p>
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